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Final Liberation: Warhammer Epic 40,000MOD Tools for Final Lib or Already made.(13 posts)(13 posts)
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Posted December 17, 2018
Wondering if someone could post a mirror for the mod tools?
I know there's the Yahoo group, haven't had or used a Yahoo account in ten years, assuming the group moderator is still present? Other links for the tools are dead.

IF NOT - Can someone post a mod that adds a heavy weapon to Space Marine squads? Thanks!
Glad we can sorta keep this game alive, I have "CEL view" and the mod tools + Chaos Patch on an old PC, just might to have dig out of storage for that!


NEVERMIND: Found the tools! Oh, this game is so nostalgic!
Post edited December 17, 2018 by RedSarge
Posted December 18, 2018
Glad to hear this - it would be great to see more activity on the modding front. How does your software relate to the sticky Mod Guide? Can you document your progress so it can be updated? :) :)
Posted December 20, 2018
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PracticalKat: Glad to hear this - it would be great to see more activity on the modding front. How does your software relate to the sticky Mod Guide? Can you document your progress so it can be updated? :) :)
Hello and thanks for the reply, the MOD GUIDE on here was a big help, though I did make better Space Marines back in say... 2010.. so long ago for this game. I used to mod SC '98 back then, in fact I was trying to make a realtime conversion using Final Liberation units... sooo much work!

https://imgur.com/a/HbFv2SZ

++++ I have a SPACE MARINE mod ready to be released, you guys will love it! ++++
I'm running into one problem, whenever I go to look at the CODEX from the deployment screen (where you pick your regiments) it crashes, it crashed only with Land Speeder Tornado & Thunderhawk w/ Turbo Laser Destructor.

Could it be the SHADOW im linking to is the one for the regular speeder and hawk? What's the deal, cant release a crashing mod.
Post edited December 20, 2018 by RedSarge
Posted January 14, 2019
Almost forgot, ok did forget.

Here's my modification for Final Lib
* Adds ESCORT SQUAD [Commissar and Space Marines]
* Adds Land Speeder Tornado [Hvy Bolter and Assault Cannon]
* Adds Flamer to Land Speeder
* Boosted all armor on Space Marine Predator and Vindicator chassi
* Vindicator has BIG BOOM demolisher [just get in close!]
* Land Raider now a Super Heavy [two hits] superior armor
* Added Thunderhawk with Turbolaser Destroyer [for Titan and tank hunting]
* Added Devastators [Lascannons and Missile launchers] unit size only 20 vs 25
* Titan Wpn Accuracy is increased [now you can actually hit things with GREEN level titans]
* Space Marine armor now 50, tested this a lot to find the right amount of an armor save. They're powerful, and now have a heavy weapon as well [one missile launcher], more fun to find them now.
* Space Marines can now fight on their own, using the new units and durability.
* Added ORK Mega Armoured Nobs [1/per detachment], unit of 4, best armor of any infantry unit, comes with battlewagon, very slow movement, require transport to get stuck in. Destroy transport to stop them, use AT wpns.

* "QUAKE CANNON" = R4 from 1 (now destroy infantry with larger blast)
* "Plasma Blastgun" = R3 (again, large blast)
* "Plasma Destructor" = R5 (large blast)
* "Volcano Cannon" = R5 (ever seen the size of this blast?)
* "Melta Cannon" = R6 (ever seen a pool of melted slag?)
* "Rockets" = R2 (these belong to aircraft, now have added anti-infantry ability)

* "Bolters" = range NOW 12 was 20 (all infantry now have to get a bit closer, no more kilometer shots)
* "Lasguns" = range NOW 12 was 20 (all infantry now have to get a bit closer)

I'm sure the archive contains everything I use, so there should be no crashing.

** KNOW BUG - if you right click on a NEW unit in the detachment screen when choosing your army, the game will CRASH instead of going to the codex screen. Only on the detachment menu it does this. Bug persist in other mods as well.

HERE: [SEE POST BELOW] on Google Drive
Post edited February 15, 2019 by RedSarge
Posted February 10, 2019
Thanks for writing this up! I like the look of most of the changes. Space Marines have always been rather underwhelming, going down quickly to bottom of the range Orks. Now they look tasty!

Only exception I can see is the reduced range for Planet Guard lasguns. I'm fond of using Plant Guard as their lasguns could take out those biker Orks at range. Now they won't stand a chance. Shouldn't lasguns have greater range to make up for being a lot less powerful? And the Planet Guard have a low to-hit chance in any case.

Just my two cents. I have no knowledge of the lore.

EDIT: Every time I click on the Download button that appears on the page you linked I get another page on advertising for Free to Play apps? Have changed my Firefox pop-up blocking settings for this site but ..
Post edited February 10, 2019 by PracticalKat
Posted February 14, 2019
Can anyone upload the mod tools somewhere please?
Posted February 15, 2019
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PracticalKat: Thanks for writing this up! I like the look of most of the changes. Space Marines have always been rather underwhelming, going down quickly to bottom of the range Orks. Now they look tasty!

Only exception I can see is the reduced range for Planet Guard lasguns. I'm fond of using Plant Guard as their lasguns could take out those biker Orks at range. Now they won't stand a chance. Shouldn't lasguns have greater range to make up for being a lot less powerful? And the Planet Guard have a low to-hit chance in any case.

Just my two cents. I have no knowledge of the lore.

EDIT: Every time I click on the Download button that appears on the page you linked I get another page on advertising for Free to Play apps? Have changed my Firefox pop-up blocking settings for this site but ..
Hi, sorry about that for mega upload, usually it's ok. I have uploaded to Google Drive instead, should work much better.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19bGS76AyjJW4WbmaghZ4zWLInhKpmpER

** I DONT KNOW WHY BASIC URL DOES NOT WORK ON HERE!!!!

I reduced the range on Lasguns and Bolters to 12 from 20 as after playing the campaign, there were far too many super long range shots being taken by my troops, and the Ork troops. Often these super long range shots seemed to exceed 20 squares, and where super effective, killling 4/5 models, or wrecking light vehicles.

I'll definitely revisit Final Lib, maybe a range of 14 is better?

HERES the mod tools
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Kl2cc6Aa1-tbtXb82d0B195Hp7ZCmea

ghogfjkogh! ahg, what an ugly forum!
Post edited February 15, 2019 by RedSarge
Posted February 26, 2019
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PracticalKat: Thanks for writing this up! I like the look of most of the changes. Space Marines have always been rather underwhelming, going down quickly to bottom of the range Orks. Now they look tasty!

Only exception I can see is the reduced range for Planet Guard lasguns. I'm fond of using Plant Guard as their lasguns could take out those biker Orks at range. Now they won't stand a chance. Shouldn't lasguns have greater range to make up for being a lot less powerful? And the Planet Guard have a low to-hit chance in any case.

Just my two cents. I have no knowledge of the lore.

EDIT: Every time I click on the Download button that appears on the page you linked I get another page on advertising for Free to Play apps? Have changed my Firefox pop-up blocking settings for this site but ..
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RedSarge: Hi, sorry about that for mega upload, usually it's ok. I have uploaded to Google Drive instead, should work much better.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19bGS76AyjJW4WbmaghZ4zWLInhKpmpER

** I DONT KNOW WHY BASIC URL DOES NOT WORK ON HERE!!!!

I reduced the range on Lasguns and Bolters to 12 from 20 as after playing the campaign, there were far too many super long range shots being taken by my troops, and the Ork troops. Often these super long range shots seemed to exceed 20 squares, and where super effective, killling 4/5 models, or wrecking light vehicles.

I'll definitely revisit Final Lib, maybe a range of 14 is better?

HERES the mod tools
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Kl2cc6Aa1-tbtXb82d0B195Hp7ZCmea

ghogfjkogh! ahg, what an ugly forum!
The mod tools URL leads to a 404.
Posted October 15, 2020
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PracticalKat: Thanks for writing this up! I like the look of most of the changes. Space Marines have always been rather underwhelming, going down quickly to bottom of the range Orks. Now they look tasty!

Only exception I can see is the reduced range for Planet Guard lasguns. I'm fond of using Plant Guard as their lasguns could take out those biker Orks at range. Now they won't stand a chance. Shouldn't lasguns have greater range to make up for being a lot less powerful? And the Planet Guard have a low to-hit chance in any case.

Just my two cents. I have no knowledge of the lore.

EDIT: Every time I click on the Download button that appears on the page you linked I get another page on advertising for Free to Play apps? Have changed my Firefox pop-up blocking settings for this site but ..
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RedSarge: Hi, sorry about that for mega upload, usually it's ok. I have uploaded to Google Drive instead, should work much better.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19bGS76AyjJW4WbmaghZ4zWLInhKpmpER

** I DONT KNOW WHY BASIC URL DOES NOT WORK ON HERE!!!!

I reduced the range on Lasguns and Bolters to 12 from 20 as after playing the campaign, there were far too many super long range shots being taken by my troops, and the Ork troops. Often these super long range shots seemed to exceed 20 squares, and where super effective, killling 4/5 models, or wrecking light vehicles.

I'll definitely revisit Final Lib, maybe a range of 14 is better?

HERES the mod tools
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Kl2cc6Aa1-tbtXb82d0B195Hp7ZCmea

ghogfjkogh! ahg, what an ugly forum!
Hey man,

Thanks for uploading your mod and taking the time to add some of this stuff in. Having a blast with the new units and the hardened space marines having come back to try the game on hard. Really good stuff, though I've run into a couple of issues.

1. For whatever reason whenever I am scrolling through the Imperial Unit List or Codex for Infantry I get a crash. I believe it's the devastator marines as with some creative menu navigating I can avoid them completely and never get a crash.

2. It seems the Honour Guard unit has a movement value of zero. Which certainly makes them a little hard to use :D

I know i's nearly two years since you last posted and I don't know if you're still around but if you happen to have patched this at any point or still have the source for the .DAT files I'd certainly be happy to look it over and see if I can fix it up.

Cheers!
Posted November 11, 2020
It also seems that linked weapons cannot have different ranges:
The heavy weapon of the space marine squads cannot fire beyond 14 tiles, and is limited to the bolter range (at least, I could not find how to get it to open fire on enemy that should have been in range).

@Noontide13: don't all new units from any mod crash the encyclopedia?
Post edited November 11, 2020 by Galdred
Posted November 19, 2020
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Galdred: @Noontide13: don't all new units from any mod crash the encyclopedia?
It's not just the encyclopaedia. They can't be selected in the detachment editor either, causing a crash. Making it a real risk to scroll the unit list. Essentially I cannot add them to any army and landing on them in the list crashes the game.

I've grown accustomed to some creative scrolling and I know where they're placed in the list.

Wondering if I'm missing something myself though.
Posted January 30, 2023
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RedSarge: Almost forgot, ok did forget.

Here's my modification for Final Lib
* Adds ESCORT SQUAD [Commissar and Space Marines]
* Adds Land Speeder Tornado [Hvy Bolter and Assault Cannon]
* Adds Flamer to Land Speeder
* Boosted all armor on Space Marine Predator and Vindicator chassi
* Vindicator has BIG BOOM demolisher [just get in close!]
* Land Raider now a Super Heavy [two hits] superior armor
* Added Thunderhawk with Turbolaser Destroyer [for Titan and tank hunting]
* Added Devastators [Lascannons and Missile launchers] unit size only 20 vs 25
* Titan Wpn Accuracy is increased [now you can actually hit things with GREEN level titans]
* Space Marine armor now 50, tested this a lot to find the right amount of an armor save. They're powerful, and now have a heavy weapon as well [one missile launcher], more fun to find them now.
* Space Marines can now fight on their own, using the new units and durability.
* Added ORK Mega Armoured Nobs [1/per detachment], unit of 4, best armor of any infantry unit, comes with battlewagon, very slow movement, require transport to get stuck in. Destroy transport to stop them, use AT wpns.

* "QUAKE CANNON" = R4 from 1 (now destroy infantry with larger blast)
* "Plasma Blastgun" = R3 (again, large blast)
* "Plasma Destructor" = R5 (large blast)
* "Volcano Cannon" = R5 (ever seen the size of this blast?)
* "Melta Cannon" = R6 (ever seen a pool of melted slag?)
* "Rockets" = R2 (these belong to aircraft, now have added anti-infantry ability)

* "Bolters" = range NOW 12 was 20 (all infantry now have to get a bit closer, no more kilometer shots)
* "Lasguns" = range NOW 12 was 20 (all infantry now have to get a bit closer)

I'm sure the archive contains everything I use, so there should be no crashing.

** KNOW BUG - if you right click on a NEW unit in the detachment screen when choosing your army, the game will CRASH instead of going to the codex screen. Only on the detachment menu it does this. Bug persist in other mods as well.

HERE: [SEE POST BELOW] on Google Drive
Are you sure R.o.f only works against infantry? Isn't that also the number of hits against vehicles(except for artillery)?
Edit: I check, and you are correct, it does nothing against vehicles:
It means that apart from the ork custom kannon speedsta, it is impossible to represent the weapons with high anti vehicle RoF in the game, but at the same time, it makes it much easier to differentiate AP and AT weapons.
Post edited January 30, 2023 by Galdred
Posted March 21, 2023
Does anyone have the mods they can make accessible for download? Have finally got this working again, and would love to play with the modified units.

Both links given in previous posts don't work for me.

Thanks!
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